John Herbert Remington

Notes:

In the Federal Census of 1900, Herbert J. Remington is age 27, living with his parents at Fenton, Genesee Co., MI.

I obtained the name of his first wife from Joyce Davidson's family tree at Rootsweb's Worldconnect. Further evidence for this first marriage is in the 1910 census, which shows his marriage at that time as a second marriage.

In the Federal Census of 1910, John H. Remington is 37 MI and his wife Alice E. is 23 KS. They are living at East Sunnyside Pct., Yakima Co., WA. Their son John C. is 9 months old, b WA.

In 1920, they are still living at Sunnyside, WA: John H. 47 MI (RI/NY), Alice E. 32 KN (IL/IL), Clarence J. 10 WA (John C.), Herbert W. 6 WA, & Hildreth H. 4 6/12 WA.

In 1930 the family is on Decatur Street at Sunnyside, WA: John H. 53 MI (OH/NY), Alice 44 KS (NY/IN), Clarence J. 20 WA, Herbert W. 16 WA, Hildreth H. 14 WA, & Alice J. 4 WA.

John married Celia L. Way 25 Dec 1901. Celia was born 10 Nov 1881; was buried , Oakwood Cemetery, Fenton, MI. [Group Sheet]

John married Alice Elvira Wise 30 Sep 1908. Alice (daughter of John W. Wise and Julia F. Price) was born 11 Mar 1887, KS; died 21 Dec 1959, Placer, CA. [Group Sheet]

1. Clarence John Remington was born 20 Jul 1909, Yakima Co., WA; died 4 Mar 1990, Mount Shasta, Siskiyou Co., CA.
2. Herbert W. Remington was born 25 Oct 1913, Yakima Co., WA; died 15 May 1999, Rocklin, Placer Co., CA.
3. Hildreth Hugh Remington was born 21 Jun 1915, Yakima Co., WA; died 4 May 1998.
4. Alice Jane Remington was born Abt 1926, Yakima Co., WA.

Notes:

His obituary in The Fenton Independent:
"John B. Remington, one of Fenton's oldest residents, died at his home in the northern part of the village. He was the second son of Mr. & Mrs. William Remington and was born in Fenton, being one of the first children born here. Surviving: wife, who has been spending the winter in Florida with her brother; two sons -- Clifford of Fenton and Bert of Alamagordo, NM; and one sister, Mrs. Jennie Traver, now a resident of Ohio."

In the 1870 Federal Census, John & Emily are living at Fenton, Genesee Co., MI, with their 2-year-old son Jay C. They are next to William & Jane, along with Eliza J. & Edward White and their children.

In the 1880 Federal Census, J. B. & Emma Remington are still at Fenton, MI, with sons Clifford & Herbert. A cousin, Peter Dubois, age 34, is in the household. They are next door to William & Jane, and John's sister Jane E. (Eliza) and her family, now surnamed Traver.

In the 1900 Federal Census, John B. & Emma J. Remington, ages 57 & 54, are still living at Fenton, MI. Son Herbert J., 27, is still with them. Peter Dubois, 53, is still boarding there. Next door is son Clifford Remington and his family.

Quote from Tim Remington, after visiting Michigan:
"There is a house that is still standing that was the home of John Broadhead Remington (our great grandfather). He built it using bricks he made in his brickyard. We have pictures of it and also a millstone that was used in 1840. We visited the historical museum in the afternoon and the folks there were great. They delighted in showing us the history they found of our relatives and put together a packet of information for us. They also showed us a brick that came from John Broadhead Remington's brickyard and it had the initials "JR" engraved in it. I understand that stamping initials into the bricks was typical of the bricks built in those days."

John married Emma Jane Kirkuff 25 Feb 1864. Emma (daughter of Isaac Kirkuff and Jane DeCue Cole) was born 4 Feb 1846, New York; died Abt 1938; was buried , Oakwood Cemetery, Fenton, MI. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

In the Federal Census of 15 Apr 1910, Emma Remington is a widow age 63 NY, living at Fenton, Genesee Co., MI. She is living on Leroy Street, next to or with son J. Clifford Remington and his family.

In the 1920 and 1930 Federal Censuses, Emma J. Remington is age 74 and 84 respectively, a widow, living with son Clifford J. Remington and his family at Fenton, Genesee Co., MI.

Her maiden name is sometimes spelled Kirkhoffe.

Notes:

William came from a family of 14 siblings. Born in Rhode Island, he moved to New Bedford, MA, then to Dutchess County and Ulster County, NY. He came to Michigan from Kingston, NY, in 1835 with his wife Jane. His trip from New York State was by canal to Buffalo, then by boat to Detroit and by foot to Fenton. (Information from Thomas Lavery, a descendant)

In the 1860 Federal Census, William & Jane Remington are living at Fenton, Genesee Co., MI. They have three children: Edwin (Eben) 23, John 19, & Jane (Jennie) 16. Also with them is brother Abner Remington, 37, a sailor.

The 1870 census shows William at age 61 & his wife Jane living in the Village of Fenton, Genesee County, MI, with his extended family. In the household are Edward H. White & Eliza J. with their three children: Jessie A., Mabel P., & Edward H. Jr.; along with two domestic servants, a farm hand, and another man -- possibly a boarder or relative. Next door are John Remington (his son) with wife Emily and son Jay C. (see Roll 671 p. 1000 R Wm Remington; online census images)

In 1880 William is 71 and Jane is 72. They are still at Fenton, MI, living near and with family members.

The obituary in The Fenton Independent, 29 Apr 1897:
"William Remington, probably the oldest pioneer of this township, at his home in the northern part of the village. He was born in Tiverton, Rhode Island, in 1809, one of a family of 14 children, all of whom are dead but one brother, Abner, of Mundy. He with his wife, Jane Broadhead, came from Kingston, New York, in 1835, taking up land in a then unbroken wilderness on the banks of the Shiawassee. At one time he owned 500 acres of land, on which a good portion of Fenton now stands. Three children survive: Ebin and John of Fenton and Mrs. John Traver of Ft. Wayne, Indiana."

William married Jane Broadhead 16 Aug 1835, Poughkeepsie, Dutchess County, NY. Jane (daughter of John Brodhead) was born 20 Mar 1807, Ulster County, NY; died 20 May 1893, Fenton, Genesee County, MI; was buried 28 May 1893, Oakwood Cemetery, Fenton, MI. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Her obituary says that at age 85 she was one of the oldest residents of Genessee County, and died at her home in the northern part of Fenton. She came to Fenton in 1835, settling on the farm taken up by her husband and which is now subdivided into the village lots.

Isaac married Jane DeCue Cole 3 Oct 1835, Knowlton, Warren County, NJ. Jane was born 26 Jan 1817; died 1896; was buried , Oakwood Cemetery, Fenton, MI. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Thomas Remington of Tiverton was appointed to serve on the grand jury, along with Isaac Negus, for the November term 1797, to attend the Court of Common Pleas. (Tiverton Probate Records No 5 p 56)

Thomas served in the military during the Revolutionary War. He first enlisted at Tiverton in January 1777, and when he was discharged in March 1778, re-enlisted right away, and was subsequently discharged about a year later. During much of that time his company was encamped at Bristol and at Ft. Barton in Tiverton. He was in the action during the Battle of RI under General Sullivan.

In his deposition as part of the pension application in 1832, he said he had been born in South Kingstown, but that his family had moved to Tiverton when he was very young. After the war he returned to Tiverton, where he is most likely the other adult male in his father's household in 1790, which includes 2 free white males 16+, and one free white female -- probably his mother or a sister.

In 1832 he mentions that he is a neighbor of Job and Charles Durfee, Esquires. Thomas Remington is in the 1830 RI Census, residing in Tiverton (Newport County, p. 071). He is also there in 1840, and is listed as a Revolutionary War Pensioner, at age 79 1/2. However, he seems to be living alone at that time. Perhaps Alice is in ill health, and has gone to live with one of her children? She will pass away in 1848 at Dartmouth; their son Joseph and family are probably there in 1840, but appear in New Bedford by 1850. I have not yet found a date of death for Thomas, but apparently he died before Alice because she is described as his widow; also, since his last pension payment was in March 1842, he probably died in Feb or March of that year. "Thomas Remington residing in Tiverton collected a pension until March 2, 1842." (source for quote: George Sermuksnis, Archives Technician at Waltham National Archives).

On 7 September 1832, two friends/neighbors and fellow-Revolutionary-soldiers testified on his behalf; they were William Cook, and John Manchester, our ancestor.

Thomas Remington is on the list of persons who united with the Amicable Congregational Society, associated with the Amicable Congregational Church, Tiverton, RI. (ref: "The History of Amicable Congregational Church 1746 - 1946" p.83) He probably was buried from this church, but there were no death records kept for the church at this time. The location of his grave is unknown. I suspect he may be buried with his parents and their Brayton relatives, in one of the unknown gravesites in the family plot at Pleasant View Cemetery, Stone Church Rd., Tiverton, RI (formerly buried on a family farm and relocated to this cemetery).

Revolutionary War Pension file # S21938

He is listed on the Pension Roll of 1835: Remington, Thomas, private of Artillery, Newport county, all $90, rec $270, R.I. Cont. Line, pl July 9, 1833, com March 4, 1831, age 74

In the 1840 Federal Census, Thomas is listed in Tiverton, RI, as a Revolutionary War Veteran/Pensioner age 79 and 1/2.

The list of Thomas and Alice's children came to me from a distant cousin in Michigan. This agreed with names I already had found in the New Bedford whaling crew lists and in marriage, census, and death records in RI and MA.

On 2 March 1791 Thomas Remington mariner of Tiverton received 250 in Spanish milled dollars from Thomas Barker of Tiverton, for the 13th 50-acre lot in the Pocasset Purchase, bounded easterly and westerly on highway, north by the 12th lot and south by the 14th lot. Witnessed by Joseph Barker and Abraham Barker. (Tiverton Deed Book 4)

See this note from cousin Russ Shaw (I am not sure if it pertains to this particular Thomas Remington, our ancestor, but it probably does):
"Last time I was at the RIHS archives I came across an interesting document that I think you may want to check on. It involves Thomas Remington and his son John. I found them both as crew members on the brig Eliza out of Bristol, bound for Trinidad de Cuba, 5 Jan 1818. Reference: MS 28,sg 2, Box 7 (1819-1820), Bristol Custom House records, RIHS."

Thomas married Alice "Elce" GRINNELL Abt 1793. Alice (daughter of Daniel GRINNELL and Sarah Unknown) was born Abt Mar 1777, Tiverton, Newport Co., RI; died 1 Jan 1848, Dartmouth, MA; was buried , Rural Cemetery, New Bedford, MA. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Her death announcement was in The Daily Mercury, New Bedford, on Monday 3 Jan 1848:
"Died, in Dartmouth, the 1st, Mrs. Alice Remington, the widow of the late Thomas Remington, formerly of Tiverton, RI, aged 72. Funeral this afternoon at 2 o'clock from No. 59 Grinnell Street. Relatives and friends are respectfully invited to attend."

A similar announcement was in the New Bedford Mercury (not the daily), Friday, 7 Jan 1848:
"In Dartmouth, the 1st, Mrs. Alice, widow of the late Thomas Remington, formerly of Tiverton, RI, aged 72."

According to the New Bedford death record, Alice died of consumption at age 70 y 10 m.

She may have died at the home of her daughter Mary Rounds.