Orsemus Remington

Notes:

In the 1850 Federal Census, Orsamus & Amanda Remington, ages 29 & 31, are living at Lorraine, Jefferson Co., NY. They have one son, Charles, age 5. Also in the household is Orren Bundy, 13.

In the 1860 Federal Census, O. Remington is age 45 and his wife Amanda is 46. They have two children in the household: Charles 15 & Eva 4. The family is still living at Lorraine, Jefferson Co., NY.

In the 1870 Federal Census, "Orsamus" & Amanda are still living at Lorraine, Jefferson Co., NY with their four children and one (presumed) daughter-in-law, Lenora (w/o Charles).

In the 1880 Federal Census, "Orsmus" Remington is still living at Lorraine, Jefferson Co., NY, with his wife Amanda and two sons, Johnathan & Mortimer. Also living with them is a grandson, Willie Wells, age 5, born NY.

This family group is living nearby other family members, such as nephew Daniel J. Remington, sister-in-law Huldah Remington living with her son-in-law Byron Hitchcock, and other Remingtons who are probably more distantly related, such as Hiram & Levi Remington.

Orsemus married Amanda Clark Abt 1844, NY. Amanda (daughter of Sam Clark and Phebe Unknown) was born Feb 1819, NY; died Aft 1 Jun 1900, NY. [Group Sheet]

1. Charles Remington was born Abt 1845, NY; died Aft 1 Jun 1900.
2. Eva Remington was born Abt 1857, NY.
3. Jonathan Remington was born Abt 1862, NY; died Aft 1 Jun 1870.
4. Mortimer Remington was born Abt 1864, NY; died Aft 15 Apr 1910.

Notes:

From the NY Genweb site:
"Jonathan Remington, a native of Rhode Island, married Diana Hall, and about 1804 located in Lorraine, on the farm now occupied by Lucius Beeman, on road 50, where he took up a large tract of land and built a log house. He had born to him five sons and two daughters, viz., Clark H., (deceased), Edmund (deceased), Rachel (Mrs. William Waterman) (deceased), Diadama (Mrs. Hial Hall) (deceased), Orsamus (deceased), and Allen and Thomas who reside in Ellisburgh. Clark H. Remington was born in this town in 1805, and was reared upon his father's farm. He married Huldah, daughter of Daniel Hall and they had two sons and four daughters. viz., Ann E. (Mrs. T. B. Hitchcock), of Mannsville,; Helen E. (Mrs. Philip Brigham), of Chicago, Ill.; Daniel J. of this town; A. J. Dyonisius, of Big Spring, Neb.; Phebe L. (Mrs. William B. Hitchcock), of this town; and Caroline (Mrs. Willard Petrie), also of his town. Daniel J. Remington was born in Lorraine in 1832, and was educated in the common schools of this town. He married Mary M., daughter of David and Catherine (Rice) Young, January 3, 1857, and they have one son and two daughters, viz., Cecil H., Clarence A., and Minnie K. Cecil H. married Edward L. Manigold, in 1875, and they have two children, M. Ernest and May Pearl. Clarence A. was born in 1859, is an engineer, and is extensively engaged in the lumber business at Waconia, Minn. He married Lena Kohler. Minnie K., youngest daughter of Daniel J., married S. Dean, a mechanic in Michigan. In 1857 Mr. Remington located on the place he now occupies. He studied law and has a large practice in Justice Court. He makes a specialty of collecting and conveyancing, and is extensively engaged in farming on road 59."

http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/childlor.htm

In the 1840 Federal Census, Johnathan Remington and family are listed at Lorraine, Jefferson Co., NY.

In the 1850 Federal Census, Jonathan & Dinah are living at Lorraine, Jefferson, NY. With them are son Thomas & daughter-in-law Ladorsa. Also there is Dinah Hall, but it is unclear who she is, particularly because her age is unclear. She may be a granddaughter or a niece. They are living near brother Noel Remington and family, and also near son Edmund and family .

In the 1860 Federal Census, J. Remington is 75 RI and his wife Dinah is 75 MA. They are still at Lorraine, Jefferson Co., NY. With them is Thomas 32 NY and his wife (Laury?) and their presumed daughter Mary 8 NY. They are near H. Remington 36 NY and his wife Nancy 32 NY and their son age 7 NY. This is probably the family of Noel's son Hiram.

From Town of Lorraine, Jefferson Co., NY, website: - "Settlement in the Town of Lorraine began in Nov 1802 . . . In 1804 the William and Isaac Lanfear, Asa and Aaron Brown, and Jonathan Remington families arrived. The first town meeting was held on 5 May 1805 at the house of John Alger in Lorraine village."

Jonathan married Dinah Hall Abt 1804. Dinah (daughter of George Hall and Rachel Briggs) was born 30 Mar 1785, Hancock, Berkshire Co., MA; died 1873, NY; was buried , NY. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Her name is written as Dinah on the 1850 Federal Census, but Diana in the town history (Child's Gazetteer of Jefferson County). In the 1870 Federal Census, Dinah is age 85, living with her son Thomas and family in Ellisburgh, Jefferson Co., NY.

Excerpted from Descendants of William Hall of Newport and Portsmouth, RI:
"Dinah HALL (3/30/1785, Hancock, MA-2/1871 Lorraine, NY) m. Jonathan REMINGTON (1/5/1784-5/2/1861). Dinah Hall married Jonathan Remington, the Jefferson County NY Journal called the Remington family, "A family of good old New England stock." The couple left Hancock, MA for the newly opened settlement in New York State called the Black River Wilderness territory. They were among the earliest settlers in early 1800, when the forest supplied the raw material and the axe was their principal tool! The couple chose the fertile land in the hill country for their homestead called Highland Farm. Jonathan was a prosperous farmer and Dinah was an expert at weaving along with knitting, her favorite was adding intricate patterns to the linen she had made. Jonathan was a volunteer in the War of 1812 along with his brother Noel and Dinah's brother, Thomas Hall. The couple lived out their long lives on Highland Farm in Lorraine, New York, having raised their 7 children to adult hood. The farm remained in the family for 4 generations, until it was sold in 1915."
http://members.cox.net/wdegidio/hall/WilliamHalllineage.htm

Notes:

Allen & Diadama were on the membership list of the First General Baptist Church of Richmond, RI, on 17 Sept 1810. (source: James N. Arnold's "Vital Records of RI," Church Records, p. 411) However, this is confusing because Allen was already widowed by 1809, and probably married his second wife Margaret about this time. Perhaps the church leaders had not heard that Diadama had died by then, and retained the names on the list of members.

Allen, probably born at Portsmouth, RI, appears to have married or at least had children in MA. However, Allen and his first wife may have been back in RI at some point and had some association with the Baptist Church in Richmond. (see above). Their children probably married in MA; at least some of them moved westward.

"A Scattered People: An American Family Moves West" by Gerald W. McFarland, p. 81 (Google Books) says that Allen Remington and his father had briefly lived at Exeter, RI; Allen came to Hancock, MA, from RI after the Revolution.

Boyd Scott Remington includes a second son named William born in 1820, but I don't think it is accurate, as there was already another son named William. Allen's estate documents mention one son named William.

Allen died intestate, and the numerous legal documents pertaining to the settlement of his estate in Berkshire Co., MA, mention the names of his children and stepchildren, as well as his second wife Margaret, who died not long after Allen did.

Allen married Diadama Unknown 1781. Diadama was born Abt 1763; died Between 1803 and 1809. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

I am not sure when or where Diadamia actually died. Although she and Allen are listed on the membership roll of First General Baptist Church of Richmond, RI, in 1810, supposedly Allen married a second wife in 1809. It may be that the church leaders in southern RI had not heard that Diadama had died, until after the membership rolls were updated.

George married Rachel Briggs 1772. Rachel (daughter of Thomas Briggs) was born 21 Mar 1753, East Greenwich, RI; died 15 Apr 1822, Hancock, Berkshire Co., MA. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

The exact identity of this Jonathan is unclear (see notes below). It is possible that he was a son of a Remington family of Prudence Island, and married an Allen girl from there. Both the Remingtons and the Allens lived on Prudence Island, Portsmouth, and had family connections and land connections.

There is a marriage record for Jonathan Remington, of Jonathan & Susannah (or Luranah?) Remington of East Greenwich, 18 Oct 1753, to Mary Thurston (RI Friends' Records). At first it was unclear to me whether this might be a first marriage for this particular Jonathan (mother's name unclear); however, Mary (Thurston) Remington died between 1777 and 1782, probably after her husband Jonathan died. See notes for Mary Thurston.

Jonathan was probably born in East Greenwich, or at least spent part of his youth there, since his birth is registered there. At some point, probably before 1741, his family moved to Massachusetts. He may have married there or in RI, but apparently at some point probably moved to Portsmouth, RI, because at least two of his children were born there; at least, their births were registered there. I am not sure when or where Jonathan and his wife died. He is very possibly the Jonathan Remington listed in the 1790 Federal Census at Hancock, MA. His son Allen lived in both MA and RI.

"A Scattered People: An American Family Moves West" by Gerald W. McFarland, p. 81 (Google Books) says that Allen Remington and his father (Jonathan) had briefly lived at Exeter, RI; Allen came to Hancock, MA, from RI after the Revolution.

Boyd Scott Remington's chart shows this Jonathan married to Prudence. However, according to an unpublished manuscript of "Family Notes" at the Knight Memorial Library in Providence, "Jonathan Remington, b.1726 Hancock, MA, married Pruda, b.1731, and had a son Allen who married Deidama; they in turn had a son Jonathan who married Diana Hall." This is clearly the same family group, but unfortunately appears to be different Jonathans, because this one was born at East Greenwich, RI, in 1730 (at least the birth was recorded there). Which is correct? (See notes for Allen's son Jonathan b.1784) See also DAR ID Number: 25799, Mrs. Sarah M. Remington Taylor; this says Jonathan was born 1726 at Hancock, MA.

BSRs chart shows the son Allen as having lived and then dying at Hancock, MA. However, James N. Arnold's "Vital Record of RI" shows Allen & Diadama Remington on the membership list of the First General Baptist Church of Richmond, RI, on 17 September 1810. Possibly Jonathan's family, and/or one or more of his children, moved to RI and then back to MA. But was Jonathan, father of Allen, born in MA or RI? This Jonathan needs more research. See notes for his father, implying that he may have moved out of state (his land was sold at public auction to pay outstanding debts).

James N. Arnold's Vital Record of RI, Richmond, lists the following Remingtons as church members in 1770: Hepsibeth, Jonathan, Lydia, Martha, Prudence, and William. This would appear to support part of this family group in BSRs chart; but who is William? At the present I am assuming he is another son, and thus adding him to the list of Jonathan's children, pending further research. However, the possibility remains that these were two different but related Remington families.

Jonathan married Prudence "Pruda" Unknown Abt 1756. Prudence was born 1731. [Group Sheet]