Charles Spencer Remington

Notes:

(If you use any portion of these notes, please give source credit to Lois Sorensen, Remington family researcher and compiler, and to other sources as noted herein.)

In the 1850 Federal Census, Albert F. is age 8 and living with his parents in Providence, RI. In 1860 he appears to be the A. F. Remington, 17, b. RI, living at Thomas, GA, with Ch. H. Remington, age 40, Ellen, age 22, and their three sons.

In the 1875 RI Census, Albert F. is age 32, married to Sarah J., age 33, and living in Providence, RI. They have four children. Ellen and her three sons, all born in GA, are also with the family.

In the 1880 Federal Census, the family is living in Attleborough, Bristol Co., MA. Albert F. is a clergyman, age 37. He and Sarah have four children in the household. Their son Albert F. from the previous census is listed as a daughter, Alberta F.

Albert married Sarah J. Spencer 28 Aug 1865, RI. Sarah was born Abt 1842, RI; died Aft 1 Jun 1880. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

(If you use any portion of these notes, please give source credit to Lois Sorensen, Remington family researcher and compiler, and to other sources as noted herein.)

From James N. Arnold's "Vital Record of RI": REMINGTON, Benjamin W., born Warren, of Charles and Betsey, 66y 0m 9d, July 24, 1884. I believe the birthplace is an error here; it should say Warwick.

The RI Genealogical Register, Vol. 12, p. 250, says Benjamin was born 15 July 1817 Wa. The abbreviation Wa signifies Warwick.

familysearch.org shows his middle name as Warren (death record); perhaps where the confusion came from.

In the 1850 Federal Census, Benjamin & Matilda, ages 33 & 24, are living in Ward 6, Providence, RI. They have four sons, all born in RI.

In the 1860 Federal Census, Benjamin W. and his second wife, Mary, are living at Cranston, RI. In the household is Benjamin's mother, Betsey Remington, age 76; also three children -- Albert, William H., & Benjamin. They are living next door to Silas & Cynthia Allen and their family.

In the 1870 Federal Census, they are living in Ward 9, Providence, RI. The household includes Benjamin W., Mary A., adult son William H., and son Frank R., age 8. Also with them is Rebecca Allen, 77; she may be Mary's mother, so I am adding her to the family tree upon that assumption (needs more research to confirm). Silas & Cynthia Allen are nearby, although not next door, as in 1860. Perhaps they are related to Mary.

In the 1880 Federal Census, Benjamin and his second wife, Mary A., have one of their children in the household -- Frank R., 18. Also there is a niece, Ada Allen, age 30. They are living on Broad St., Providence, RI.

Interestingly, they are in the same neighborhood as Stacy W. Remington, but Stacy was born in NY, and Ben was born in RI. Could they be brothers? If so, their parents must have gone to NY State for a while, then returned to RI.

On 15 March 1857, Benjamin W. Remington, along with William & Betsey S. Randall, petitioned the Cranston Probate Court, "holden at the Inn of Lyman Barney," concerning Charles & Betsey Remington, Benjamin's parents. I am guessing that Betsey was very likely his sister -- perhaps born Betsey Stafford Remington (needs more research to confirm). Benjamin, William, & Betsey "respectfully represent that Charles Remington and Betsey Remington, wife of said Charles, are incompetent to manage their estates and affairs, and your petitioners are afraid they will squander their property and render themselves chargeable, and [request] that your Honorable body will appoint some suitable person guardian."

Benjamin married Matilda Spink 28 Oct 1841, Providence, RI. Matilda (daughter of Silas Spink and Ruth Essex) was born 9 Feb 1825, North Kingstown, RI; died 10 Dec 1852; was buried , Locust Grove Cemetery, Providence, RI. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

(If you use any portion of these notes, please give source credit to Lois Sorensen, Remington family researcher and compiler, and to other sources as noted herein.)

It is possible that he had a first wife named Alice, with whom he lived in NY State. See notes for Stacy Waterman Remington on this family tree.

He is probably the Charles Remington listed in the 1820 Federal Census at Warwick, RI. In addition to Charles & Betsey, who are both 26 - 45, the household includes one male 10 - 15, two males under 10, two females 10 - 15, and two females under 10. If these are all his children, there are three sons and four daughters.

There is some discrepancy about the dates of birth and death for Charles. "Providence, RI Deaths 1851 - 1879" Vol. 3, p. 488, has the following information: Remington, Charles, s. of Thomas, 87 yrs., Mar 14 1857 (10:9). This would place his birth year as c1770. It also provides the key information that his father was a Thomas Remington -- one of the many. The RI Death Index identifies his parents as Thomas & Mary. On the same page in the book "Providence, RI Deaths" is the following entry: Elizabeth, wid. of Charles, 81 yrs., Mar 28 1866 (11:199). This Charles & this Elizabeth are husband and wife, as demonstrated by the following cemetery and census data.

The RI Cemetery Database has this information, differing slightly from the above: Charles Remington, 25 Oct 1776 - 13 Mar 1856; and Betsey (Stafford) Remington, c1785 - 28 Mar 1866.

REMINGTON, CHARLES 1776 - 13 MAR 1856 CR026
REMINGTON, BETSEY (STAFFORD) 1785c - 28 MAR 1866 CR026

Charles's death is also recorded at Cranston, RI, as 14 March 1857 (Bk 3, p12).

Their graves are both in the John Stafford Lot on Pontiac Ave., Cranston. Clearly these are the same individuals listed in the book "Providence, RI Deaths." However, notice that the year of Charles's birth, and the date of death, are different.

In the Federal Census of 1850, Charles is 74, a farmer, and Betsey is 67. They are at Cranston, RI.

On 15 March 1857, Benjamin W. Remington, along with William & Betsey S. Randall, petitioned the Cranston Probate Court, "holden at the Inn of Lyman Barney," concerning Charles & Betsey Remington, Benjamin's parents. I am guessing that Betsey was very likely his sister -- perhaps born Betsey Stafford Remington (needs more research to confirm). Benjamin, William, & Betsey "respectfully represent that Charles Remington and Betsey Remington, wife of said Charles, are incompetent to manage their estates and affairs, and your petitioners are afraid they will squander their property and render themselves chargeable, and [request] that your Honorable body will appoint some suitable person guardian."

I suspect Charles may be a son of Thomas Remington, Jr. and Mary Wood, who were married 7 June 1778 at Warwick, RI. The RI Death Index identifies his parents as Thomas & Mary, which agrees with my theory (although both of these are common names). If so, he may have been born in 1778 or after; or, he may be a son of a previous marriage for this Thomas. In the 1850 Federal Census at Cranston, RI, Charles is 74 and Betsey is 67. This would place his year of birth as c1776, which agrees with the cemetery data. But perhaps he didn't know exactly what year he was born, or didn't keep exact count over the years, as so often happens with records through the decades. If his birth date was calculated based on his age at death, it may not be correct.

Although I have found no birth records for them, there are several reasons why I have placed Charles and William in this family group. First of all, according to the death record at Warwick City Hall, and the RI Death Index, William was a son of Thomas (no mother is mentioned); Charles is known to be son of a Thomas & Mary. Secondly, they were born around the same time, and lived in the same area (Warwick/Cranston/Pawtuxet Village). Thirdly, Charles & Betsey had a son named Benjamin W. Remington, who had sons named Albert F. and William H. Benjamin's son Albert F. is found living at Thomas, GA, in the 1860 Federal Census, in the household of Charles H. & Ellen Remington and family. Also in Thomas, GA, at that time are Edward Remington and his extended family. Edward is a son of William, of Thomas. In 1875, the wife (or widow) of Charles H. Remington, Ellen, is living at Providence, RI, next to/with Albert F. and William H., the sons of Benjamin W. There is clearly a close family relationship here. The most reasonable explanation is that Charles & William were brothers, and that the Remington individuals living together in Thomas, GA, and in Providence, RI, were cousins. Additional evidence is the repetition of the same names in both families.

I have also wondered if this Charles Remington may have married first to Alice, and had a son named Stacy Waterman Remington b 21 Oct 1809 (see notes elsewhere on this tree for that family). One similarity is the middle name Warren among the children/grandchildren.

If any new information comes to light, it will be added to this family tree.

Charles married Elizabeth "Betsey" Stafford Abt 1811. Elizabeth (daughter of John Stafford and Mary Arnold) was born Between 1782 and 1785; died 28 Mar 1866; was buried , John Stafford Lot, Pontiac Ave., Cranston, RI. [Group Sheet]

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The RI Cemetery Database has Betsey's year of birth as c1785. She was age 67 in the 1850 Federal Census, which would suggest a birth year of c1783. The date of death in the cemetery data is 28 March 1866; the NASDAR Report of General Records, 1959, p. 57, Bible record of the family of John & Mary (Arnold) Stafford, has Betsey's date of death as 10 March 1866.

The book "Descendants of Roger Williams, Book I," the Waterman and Winsor Lines, p. 71, also gives the parentage of Betsey Stafford. It says she was born 1785, and married Alphonso Armington and/or Charles B. Remington.

In the 1860 Federal Census, Betsey Remington is age 76, living in Cranston, RI, with her son Benjamin W. Remington and his family.

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SPINK SILAS 1793c - 17 JUL 1867 EG026

Silas — Ruth Essex. Ruth (daughter of Benajah or Benaiah Essex and Penelope Fones) was born 4 May 1792, Warwick, RI; died 9 Jan 1873, North Kingstown, RI; was buried , Glenwood Cemetery, Cedar Ave., East Greenwich, RI. [Group Sheet]

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SPINK RUTH 1793c - 9 JAN 1873 EG026

Her gravestone has this saying: "The faithful are certain of their reward."