Andrew Charles? Rounds

Male Abt 1831 - 1883  (~ 52 years)

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  • Name Andrew Charles? Rounds 
    Born Abt 1831  MA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Died 6 Aug 1883  Suva, Fiji Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I28784  Sorensen-Remington Family Tree
    Last Modified 13 Aug 2019 

    Father Joseph Rounds,   b. 4 Mar 1785, Tiverton, Newport Co., RI Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Aug 1862, Dartmouth, MA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years) 
    Mother Mary Polly Remington,   b. 18 May 1794, Tiverton, Newport Co., RI Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Sep 1866, Dartmouth, MA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 72 years) 
    Family ID F10699  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Fanny Pickering 
     1. Charles Rounds,   b. Abt. 1858, Fiji Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 161 years)  [Birth]
     2. Joseph Rounds,   b. Abt. 1862, Fiji Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 157 years)  [Birth]
     3. Josephine Rounds,   b. Abt. 1867, Fiji Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 152 years)  [Birth]
     4. Thomas Rounds,   b. Abt. 1870, Fiji Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 149 years)  [Birth]
     5. William Rounds,   b. Abt. 1872  (Age ~ 147 years)  [Birth]
     6. Arthur Rounds,   b. Abt. 1873, Fiji Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 146 years)  [Birth]
     7. John Rounds,   b. Abt. 1878, Fiji Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 141 years)  [Birth]
    Last Modified 13 Aug 2019 
    Family ID F10816  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Photos

    New Bedford in the 1800s. It was a busy whaling port.

    Whaling was an honorable occupation and very hard work. It also gave many men the opportunity to see the world.

    By Charles Rounds' testimony here, he must have come to Fiji sometime between 1850 and 1851.

    According to this death record, Charles Rounds was a boat builder age 54 when he died 6 Aug 1833; this places his birth year around 1829. It gives his birthplace as New Bedford and says he has been in Fiji 33 years, so he came around 1850. Seven children and their ages are listed for Charles.

    The death report gives Charles's birthplace as Taunton, while his official death record says New Bedford. In 1845 when Charles is listed as a crew member at age 14, his hometown is given as Dartmouth. Since New Bedford is the major port city adjacent to Dartmouth, it is reasonable that family members would think of this as his place of birth and residence in America. Taunton was nearby but not as close as Dartmouth, and I have found no evidence that Charles was from that town (see notes).

  • Notes 
    • Please note that I have made an assumption that Andrew C. is Charles A. in this family, and that he is the individual who sailed from New Bedford and settled in Fiji 1850-1851. See explanation and details below.

      An Andrew Rounds went on a whaling voyage in 1847. In the 1850 census at Dartmouth, MA, Andrew is age 19 and a sailor, living with his parents.

      My current theory is that Andrew is actually Charles A. Rounds; see notes below. The only other possibility is that Charles was an older brother born c1814. If so, he must have left home between 1820 and 1830, when he was age 6-16, as he is not in the 1830 census. But that age does not agree with the information on Charles A. Rounds, age 14 in 1845 in the New Bedford whaling records.

      Charles A. Rounds age 14, greenhand, hometown Dartmouth, sailed from New Bedford on the ship Canton on 28 June 1845, headed for the Indian Ocean, due to return in 1847, may be this Andrew who was born 1831, son of Joseph and Mary. Andrew is back in the 1850 census as mentioned above but disappears from all records after that. Occupation is given as sailor.

      By his own sworn testimony Charles Rounds settled in Fiji sometime around 1851; he married there in 1856, but so far I but can't prove that he is Andrew C. Rounds. DNA shows a match between me and Charles's descendants, and this is the only family I know of that could be the link. It's possible that Charles is another son in the family, but my guess is that Andrew preferred his middle name, or for some reason didn't want to be known by Andrew in Fiji.

      A note concerning his death on 6 Aug 1883 at Suva says he was Charles Rounds of Taunton, MA. I have checked the censuses for Rounds families in Taunton. In 1840 there were two families who had young boys: Marcus T. Round and Andrew Round. In 1850 these two families were still in Taunton; Marcus's son Charles A. Rounds was born c1833 and he is still in the 1855 MA State census and is listed in the Civil War at age 30, so he cannot be the one who went to Fiji. Andrew Round is Andre Rounds in 1850 and his son is a junior born c1838; he marries in New Bedford in 1859; so those families are eliminated as possibilities.

      As of this time I am still contemplating the Charles Rounds who settled in Fiji -- as to whether he could be Charles A. and/or Andrew -- but if so why did he never use a middle initial in Fiji? Another thought is that he went to live with relatives and that's why he is not in the 1840 census in Dartmouth with his siblings. There were several households of their relatives living in both Dartmouth and New Bedford. I did receive his death certificate from Dulcie which lists his children, including a Joseph and Josephine, which is interesting to me as so often family names were used for the children. William, Thomas, and John are also family names, but all of these can be fairly common so inconclusive as proof.

      I found a brief reference to Charles in a book at Google Books online; the title is "Native American Whalemen and the World . . ." by Nancy Shoemaker, p 135. It mentions that Charles Rounds of New Bedford was reimbursed the $155 due him from the people of Kadavu.

      For more information on Charles in Fiji:

      All of the following notes are from Dulcie Stewart's blog:

      "I then emailed the US National Archives-Northeast Region, Waltham, MA and they were able to provide me with the following information from Crew List complied 1820-1939:"

      Name: Charles A. Rounds
      Ship: CANTON
      Place of birth: Dartmouth, MASS.
      Place of residence: New Bedford, MASS.
      Citizen of the US
      age 14, height 5' 1
      Departure date was July 28, 1845

      According to this record, Charles would have been born c1831. This is the calculated birth year given for Andrew in the 1850 census.

      "According to John Young (1984) Charles Rounds arrived in Fiji in 1851, his source was the Land Claims Commission 1875-1887."

      "The Canton arrived in Fiji June 29, 1846 (Robert Langdon, 1984) and in Australia July 20, 1846 (NSW Archives)."

      "Charles Rounds was the first Rounds in Fiji. He arrived April 1851 on a whaling vessel from New Bedford, Massachusetts, United States. He married Fanny Pickering, daughter of Charles Pickering and Burekovia Tabuakovei of Burebasaga Village, Rewa."

      From Dulcie's email:
      Charles Rounds arrived in Fiji in April 1851 (Fiji Land Claims Rehearing: No. 23 Toga Island, 4th January 1878). He died 6 August 1883 in Suva and was reported by William Henry Bruce to the US Secretary of State that Charles was from Taunton (Consular Despatches, No. 11).

      However on Charles death certificate (attached), his place of birth given is New Bedford, and on his son's birth certificate (John Round born 2 July 1878) he was listed as being 46 (so born about 1832) and from New Bedford.

  • Sources 
    1. [S012433] Federal Census of 1 June 1850.